Share your ideas on the other issues here. Maybe you can pick up some support from your classmates. Write the number of the issue and then your comment. Remember to be positive and helpful.
1. Is lying acceptable or not?
2. Should parents have a say in a child's love life/marriage plans?
3. Does "love at first sight" truly exist?
4. Which is stronger: emotion or logic?
5. Is love the most important thing in life?
6. Does a person have the right to take his or her own life?
7. Are we born innocent or is it a virtue we obtain?
8. Should authority take responsibility for the action of those under them?
9. Is there anything in this world truly worth dying for?
10. Are we guided by fate or by the choices we make?
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2. parents should NOT have a say in their childs love life/marriage plans. marriage plans especially. Most parents don't know their children well enough to be able to pair them with someone they have to spend the rest of their lives with. Even as teenagers, parents shouldn't decide for them, at that age, they already know how they feel about certain people whether good or bad.
ReplyDelete9. yes there are things in the world worth dying for. Such as family. If you really care about your family, especially certain people that you care about dearly, you would do anything to save them. I know I would take a bullet for almost every single one of my family members. Family has irrational love attached and dying doesn't fix the irrational ways of family love. Also friends are worth dying for. If you didn't have friends to share your feelings with/secrets, you wouldn't have anything. I would die for any one of my true friends because i know that they would die for me too. You need friends in your life, life isn't worth it without friends and family.
5. I say love is the most important thing in life. Without love life would be no where. Love makes the world go around. If there was no love people would have no one to lean on or go to when they need help. You help people out when u love and care about them. Without love you couldn't get soul mates, so then u couldn't have children. If that were to happen there would be no more people on this Earth.
ReplyDeletei agree with whitney, and if your in a situation were your families dont like each other you can always find a way to be with that person.
ReplyDelete10. I think the choices we make is our fate because I believe everything happens for a reason, and that the choices we make have a purpose from the very start.
ReplyDelete1. I think the only time lying could be considered acceptable is to save someone's feelings. But even then, if someone doesn't know the complete truth, it could end up hurting them worse in the end.
i totally agree with kelsey on her comment to #10. IF we make choices, then the out come happens for a reason and a purpose. She made a nice comment about fate, but i have to dissagree because I think our life depends on our own desisions, not some fairy tale ending called "fate.
ReplyDelete#7) I think it is wrong for people to take their own life. However, for some people there life may not be worth it. Maybe say a loved one got murdered right in front of some ones eyes. Would you rather live with that the rest of your life or possibly dream about it and constantly be reliving that nightmare? for most they would rather die than to constantly think about that. So in some cases I can see the persons point of view for not wanting to remain on earth . :)
ReplyDelete3. Love at first sight is obviously a myth. Romeo decides that he loves Rosaline until he meets juliet and then he falls for her. Its just an idea to give people hope and in some cases people might fall in love with someone they dont know very well, but they meet this person before they decide they are going to do anything they can to be with them. Love at first sight makes for a good story though.
ReplyDelete2) Parents deffinately should not plan their childrens marriages for them. They do it because they want to their child to be happy with the "perfect guy" if the child themself cant pick out the guy how are they ever going to be happy? Paris likes Juliet , Mr.Capulet like Paris so he says yes you can marry my daughter. i like that Mr.Capulet says if Juliet likes you , then you can marry her. But still its horrible to be set up with someone your not happy with.
ReplyDeleteI agree with sam. i do not beleive in love at first site. It is just something people say. Just like people say they love someone all the time when they really dont. She had a really good point about romeo finding juliet and falling for her after he already thought he was in love. You can not fall in love with someone you know nothing about. that would be loving them for there looks. Sometimes people do end up fallin in love then say it was love at first site when they really just fell in love over time. and yes love at first site does make a cute good story !<3
ReplyDelete10. I believe that the choices you make effect your fate, not just one without the other. The two go hand-in-hand in a way. Therefore in a way it makes me hard to decide between the two. All it really is, is cause and effect, but i can't help but believe fate is guiding me at some points. Nothing religious, just a feeling.
ReplyDelete10. I'm going to have to just tag along to Fish's comment about fate. I do not believe our lives will end up the same way no matter what choices we make in life. If that were the case we wouldn't have to wear seatbelts, we wouldn't have to wear protective gear for certain activities, we wouldn't have to follow any rules at all! But since our live is a novel with the end left blank, we have to be the ones to finish writing it. Our choices are what turns us in whatever direction we may go. We aren't predestined.
ReplyDelete#6) i dont think it is one bit right for someone to take their own life. There are alot of people that arent very fortunate and some people dont like. Everyone has someone who loves them and it isnt right to put that burden on the ones you love by taking your own life. whether its your mom dad brother sister etc. there is always someone who would have to carry the burden of you killing yourself and it is selfish making people feel bad for something that you did.
ReplyDeleteLogan is not only right about #6, he is EXACTLY right. The 2nd leading cause of death to teenagers is suicide (only behind car accidents), and it's because teenagers think that if they have a really bad experience, they don't think anybody loves them. They over-react and hurt themselves. People shouldn't even do things to intentionally hurt themselves. That is just stupid. Now I'm not intentially calling anybody who may do that out, but is it really necessary? Scream in a pillow, punch something, listen to music. Those are the three main things I do to relieve stress. There are alternatives for stress relief to hurting yourself. And suicide is the extreme that nobody should do. If you think that the world would be a better place without you, you need to talk to somebody because as Logan said, EVERYBODY has SOMEONE. Suicide is completely wrong.
ReplyDelete6. I disagree with Dalton. Suicide should be allowed socially. People should be allowed to make their own choices. If you believe your life is horrible enough to warrant killing yourself, go ahead and do it. Perhaps I personally wouldn't kill myself, but it isn't because of my values, it's because my life is bad. But what if the person you loved and had been married to for twenty years died of cancer and your fifty years old, more than likely not going to meet someone new, nor are you interested, and by your faith, or lack thereof, you believe that death is better than what you are experiencing. Also, for people out there who are bipolar, schizophrenic, or even clinically depressed, if they are not able to make their lives better with medication, therapy, friends, a lover, or family, and they believe that they have tried every possible route and can't get their life together, perhaps their only solution they see is death. This country is founded on freedom of choice, and since this doesn't affect the pursuit of happiness like murder or rape or other extremely violent crimes, suicide is victimless, and as far as I'm concerned, shouldn't be considered a crime at all. Everyone may have someone, but they may not be the right someone to help them.
ReplyDeleteThe previous post applies only to individuals over the age of 18 years, if you are a minor you are the property of your parents and therefore should have no say in your life or death.
ReplyDelete8. No. The actions of an individual are there own responsibility. It goes back to the Nuremburg defense, many SS soldiers claimed that the torture and death of countless Jews were not their faults. They claimed that Hitler was the cause of the deaths when they themselves were holding the rifles. The leaders of concentration camps claimed that they were only following the orders of Hitler, but the were the ones signing the list of individuals to be incenerated. Throughout history the leader of a movement was always the one persecuted, everyone else was inconsequential. The leaders aren't the cause of the problem, Hitler wouldn't have risen to power if no one had supported him.
Okay Ashley, you had to start your post with "I disagree with Dalton" so I'm going to start mine like this in respose to the suicide topic: I DISAGREE WITH ASHLEY AGIAN. Suicide is wrong. But she asked me in class, "what if somebody you love is going to die, and they are suffering from terminal cancer?" This is a valid question. And following Ms. Tester's notes about persuasive-arguementative speaking, I'm going to use that arguement against you. =D Suicide is defined as "taking one's own life by means of unnatural purposes". If somebody is on their death bead and they are suffering, then they say they no longer wish to live and they'd like to take away their means of surviving, does that REALLY fit the definition of suicide? No. Because it's unnatural purposes keeping the person alive! The same is true if your father for example is on a respirator (and I'm by any means saying I would do this, just using it as an example), and he says he'd like you to unplug it because he doesn't want to live, is that murder? Again, no. And that's because he would be dying with nature's natural course. So by me saying suicide is completely wrong, I'm saying that taking your own life in an unnatural way is completely wrong (ex. shooting yourself, hanging yourself, stabbing yourself). And really, realistically, if somebody was suffering THAT BAD in a hospital, they'd be so drugged up on morphine or something with the same effect so they wouldn't feel pain. So that isn't a realistic arguement.
ReplyDeletei agree with what dalton and disagree with what says and it states in the ten commandments of the bible "thou shall not kill" and by killing yourself you would be breaking that commandment. This is a sin and not being able to confess and ask for forgiveness from the lord before you die because you would be killing yourself giving you no time to means you will go to hell. And honestly you have to be pretty low to kill yourself. My point is that its just dumb Taking your own life is killing and dalton is completely right its not natural. EVERYONE has at least one person who cares about them.
ReplyDeleteI have to get in on this. just tagging along with Logan here... I agree. I'm a born again Christian and I believe if you kill yourself, then your sining. For 1, God gave you a life that you should cherrish and love. He gave you a family. He gave you friends. He gave you food. He gave you air to breath. Heck, He even threw the Dallas Cowboys in there =). There is no way possible that you should want to kill yourself. And for 2, it would be a selfish move. You would really have to think about the people who love you. and then you have to think about... "WOuld i really want my life to end", because once you kill yourself, there are no do over. There are no Mulligans. Your life on earth is officially over. There is nothing you can do about it...... But i'm just sayin.
ReplyDeleteI would like to add one more thing. A stat that might surprise some of you is that 10 out of 10 people will die. So it's not like you won' ever die if you don't do it yourself. you will eventually have a time to die and it's not for your doing.
ReplyDeleteO and Logan... for future references... just because you commit a sin and don't have time to ask for forgiveness, it doesn't mean you are going to hell. That's like if i cheat in a board game and then die in my sleep, then I'm going to Hell. NO. God looks at all sins in the aspect that they are all sins. and because he died on the crossed you are washed and cleaned of all sins that satan my put apon you..... But once again, I'm just sayin.
i agree with the fact that any person or persons should and do have the right to take there life and future into there own hands i know i would never commit suicide yet i do believe that if a person is wanting to end there life over cancer, depression, stupidity, selfishness, want, or desire. then he or she should have such a right and if a right such as this is not allowed than no someone doesn't ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE because if you had someone who cared for you and loved you than they to would want the best for you and if you believe that is death than they should support you.
ReplyDeleteOkay Dalton, how about this. Suppose one is hadicapped. They weren't born that way, but were made that way because of a car accident or some such. (Something that would have been caused by god himself in his master plan) They are paralyzed from the neck down and no longer wish to live because they have no true purpose in society. They are in pain, both physical and emotional (the emotional being that they realize that they are only a hinderence to their family), so they decide to ask someone in their family for assisted suicide. Do you believe that if the person who was asked helps, that they should be punished because they are asked? Just asking, please don't start another debate on this one, just want your opinion.
ReplyDeleteAs for murder, don't people kill all the time in war. I mean, why would someone go to your magnificent and terrifying hell for protecting their country. I mean, come on, what are you supposed to do. Repent for every single one of those you killed, that could be hundreds. Besides, how are you supposed to know in the long run how many people you killed.
And on the topic of capital punishment. Why do we kill those who kill, to show that killing is wrong?
And by the way, is killing limited to the actual act, or does indirect count too. Are you saying that because Albert Einstein and Robert Oppenheimer worked on the atomic bomb during world war two, a machine that killed thousands, knowing full well that it was meant as a killing device, that they should go to hell for killing the Japanese during the bombings.
Or, how about this one, there are many designers of weapons. If one man designs a new rifle that gets circulated in the army and eventually kills millions as more and more are produced, does he go to hell if he doesn't repent for creating a weapon that he believed would actually help protect his country. On the flip side, there is a man working on new kevlar to help FBI agents survive gun shot wounds, does he get to go to heaven just because his intent was to save people, when the gun creator's would have been to save and protect his country, just in another way.
And respondig to Logans, thou shalt not kill, hello, is anyone ever going to get it into their mind that i'm and ATHIEST!! I don't believe in god. I don't think killing is wrong because some guy believed that having auditory hallucinations was hearing the voice of god. I think it is wrong because you are taking someones life, sending them into the void, WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. That's why I think suicide is all right. People are deciding for themselves what they want. If the constitution says that you have freedom of choice, you should be able to choose. And before anyone says that that means you could choose to kill someone, no. You must also not get in the way of their pursuit of happiness. Suicide is a victimless and harmless thing, if someone wants to do something to themselves, so what, they aren't hurting anyone else. If drinking and smoking are legal, why not suicide. And how come people who cut themselves, which in the long run, is better for you than drinking or smoking, get institutionalized for harming themselves.
Besides, if you're opposed to suicide just because of some book, that the majority of christians will never read, than that is just stupid. Why be opposed to it. I mean, wouldn't suicide just make your mythical heavan more roomy. If people who kill themselves are heathens, then why worry about it.
And also, to the repenting thing. If you slit your wrists open, going up, not accross, to open up your veins all the way up your arm, then got into a bath tub to keep the cut open, you would have more than enough time to beg your deity for forgiveness before passing out from blood loss.
Don't think that just because some book told something it's true. I mean, look at Dianetics.
Okay, okay, okay...I'm putting a lid on this one. If you would like to continue a debate on your own time, outside of class, off of the blog that is fine OR if you would like to use it for your presentation topic and present your arguments then that is fine. But no more discussion on #6. Understood?
ReplyDelete4. I think emotion is stronger because it's how we act. Some of the most stupid or best decisions people make are pushed by their emotions, and they just don't think about it. Also, sometimes you can have such a strong emotion or feeling about something that you would want to do anything to make that happen, and you don't always think about what you do first.
ReplyDelete2. i don't think parents should have a big say in who their kids marry. Because if they did have a big say you probably wouldn't be marrying someone you truely loved and care about. Most of the time parents want a perfect man/woman for their child, when the reality is, is that most of the time people don't want total perfection. Plus a lot of parents don't know their kids well enough to choose who they will marry.
ReplyDelete9.Yes, in my opinon there are things that are worth dying for. Although it all could be of question, but for the most part people seem to act in different ways when put under pressure. I know I would take a hit for my family,pets and maybe even some of my friends. I guess it all comes down to whether or not you have enough courage to do so.
4) I agree with Kelsey and here's why: My entire decision making process is based off of emotion. I'm not the kind of person that chooses the most logical or smart decision if it doesn't feel right. Your emotions are driven by friends and family and that is the strongest drive you can have. I would do ANYTHING for my best friends and I'd do almost anything for all my other friends. Emotion decisions also don't hurt your concience. I have to make a decision knowing that it is the right thing to do and my concience will be clean. I think all people should make decisions the same way. (For a great example of emotion taking over logic, watch 2012 and see the ending.)
ReplyDelete9)I've already got my post filled for this thread so this'll be real short. There ARE things worth dying for. Family and friends are the two biggest things I could think of. And all my friends should know that even if they're not my best friends, I'd risk my life for them.
ReplyDelete4. i would have to agree sort of with dalton. But i also think it depends on the person. Some people do make choices off of emotion or how they feel about the situation. Others tho would look at every possible thing and make the most logical choice and just live with it. Sometimes my emotions tell me to do one thing but when i start to think of all the possible things that could happen if i follow my emotions i usually do what is more logical. That does not always mean I like the choice I make but it makes things easier. I dont know if you can understand this but it makes since to me. haha ! :)
ReplyDeleteYeah Summer is right too. If somebody you loved was going to die, but you rescuing them would kill the rest of the human race... you would have to let the human race stay. (Unless of course it was your girlfriend. Then you could marry and repopulate the earth yourselves and hope it turns out better than it is now.) =D
ReplyDelete5. All the way at the top , I agree wtih Whitney. I think love is one of the most important things in life. To have love you need trust. Without trust there is absolutely NO LOVE. If you think you can love someone without trusting them, let me know how it goes.
ReplyDeleteAlso most people think that money is the most important thing. But can money really buy trust and love? No it cant, it can buy really nice things for the people you love. But, you need the love first, then the money to to get that gift. I'm just saying.
1. i do think that lying is ok. I mean not in like situations where your in trouble. If u need to tell the truth just do it. Lying is ok like when we tell little kids about the easter bunny and santa. We are lying to them. Almost everyone does it so it is apparently ok to lie.
ReplyDelete10) i 100% think that everything happens by fate. in the end every little decision you made was meant to be. even if the decision you made was a horrible one in the end you learned from it and you knew not to do it again. so not only did it make you stronger but it taught u lesson.
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ReplyDeleteI think like now the times we live in its acceptable to get permission from your parents to marry someone. Just not letting them choose who you marry,or when you marry. Obviously you would have to learn to like that person but i know sometimes whenever i meet someone new its like oh i dont have much to say to you. And it would just be weird like meeting your soon to be husband a day before your wedding. And its stranger because your like oh my gosh i have to live with this person i just met him? Im glad today things arent like that. Even though sometimes like yeah you may end up loving the person you marry but it takes time for a relationship to grow and get stronger. If there were weddings still set up like that today where we live i bet there wont be as many divorces or fights because its shameful. Im not saying its not shameful these days to go cheat on your wife or something, just like you would be forced to work it out because divorce wasnt really the best option then.
3) Really i dont even know why anyone would ever believe in this. Love at first sight its rediculous. If you really love someone the love will come through a relationship not just saying "o DANG shes hot i think i love her" This is not love its just a simple case of infatuation. Like romeo thought he was in love with rosaline, BUT he met juliet and didnt know how he even thought he loved rosaline.
ReplyDelete1. I believe that lying is acceptable to an extent. If you lie to someone to protect their dignity or to protect their emmotions it'fine. If you had to decide to either tell someone something and cause them to be emmotionaly distressed and perhaps cause them to take their own lives OR lie to them to protect them. Which would you choose? We should all know the answer to this one BUT I'm not saying lying is always acceptable. Lying can get you into big big trouble at times.
ReplyDelete9. I believe that their are things in this world dying for, but they are few and far between. The biggest one I believe is worth dying for is your true loved ones. I honestly would rather die then have to suffer with the distress of never being able to see them or talk to them again.
ReplyDelete2. Okay, this one is my favorite. My answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT! PARENTS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CHILDRENS DESIRES ARE IN PEOPLE! I would think parents would want their kids to be happy and find the person they truely like. Not be forced to marry to someone they have no clue about or don't even like for that matter.
ReplyDelete2. i believe there are two sides in this issue that are extremely important.Because the side were you agree that your parents should be allowed to have a say in their child's love life and or marriage plans..you could say yes because its your parents and they love you , and they want the best for you and your future. Like traditional weddings its always about if your going to wear your moms dress or if they should pay for your wedding.
ReplyDeleteThe other side is.. what if that child doesnt have parents like they pasted away or even their childhood was bad and they never spook to their parents again because they dont want them to have any part in their lives and love life most importantly. Also the child has their own right to love who they want to love , and to have their parents take that away is not something that i would like to happen to me.
7. i believe that innocence is not something you will be born with. I think its some how ,how your raised like if your family was a wealthy, then your more likely to be the same. Or if your family never had something bad happen to were it changed your actions and how you dealt with things. So being innocent is just a personality trait that you could obtain.
ReplyDelete1) i think you should not be able to lie because it leads to no good and can get you in trouble. But on the other hand i think you should be able to lie if you can help out a friend.
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ReplyDelete3)No i dont think theres such a thing as love at first. I believe there lust at first sight but not love, because for love you actually have to know someone and what they like or believe in.
ReplyDelete9) i think the only thing in the world truly worth dying for is something you truly love like your family members or your wife/husband.
ReplyDeletei do believe that there are some things truly worth dying for one such thing would be the life of an inphant that is your own or that is neer and dear to your heart.
ReplyDeleteand i would also like to say that no i do not believe lying is acceptable and that even though it may seem the easyest thing it is never the right thing.
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